Mochrena - it's all Satan's fault!

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Charles Arthur
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Mochrena - it's all Satan's fault!

Post by Charles Arthur » Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:16 am

The following appeal for donations to help flood victims in Gonaives has been made to an organisation in the UK. I am bringing it to your attention because it is a clear statement of Mochrena's pitch. Now we know - Haiti's poverty is all Satan's doing!!
Charles Arthur

[quote]Please help us support the people of Haiti during this difficult period through corporate, organizational or individual contributions. Pray God for us that He use His mercy toward Haiti.

About the Christian Movement for a New Haiti (MOCHRENHA), it is the only organized Christian political party in Haiti. Since the independence of this country January the 1st, 1804, all the leaders got commitment with satan to lead this country. It is the reason why Haiti is the poorest country of America. We read in Psalm 33:12 "Blessed is the nation whose God is th
e Lord". So our goal in MOCHRENHA is to have a new commitment with God for Haiti in order to obtain the blessings of God to the Haitian people. MOCHRENHA got no relationship with the former President Jean Bertrand Aristide because he was a dictator and a servant of satan. I will send you more information about MOCHRENHA later.

Sincerely yours.
Dr. Luc Mésadieu,
(an address in Petionville, Haiti)[/quote]

Leonel JB

Post by Leonel JB » Tue Dec 07, 2004 11:47 am

That Luc M is an example of another brainwashed religious God follower...

I've heard that before. Perhaps, he can help us with finding the right leader. The one who communicates with GOD on a daily basis. Maybe someone like G Bush?

Wow, some people really need a rewiring of their brain...

leonel

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Re: Mochrena - it's all Satan's fault!

Post by Gelin_ » Tue Dec 07, 2004 12:29 pm

[quote] Since the independence of this country January the 1st, 1804, all the leaders got commitment with satan to lead this country. It is the reason why Haiti is the poorest country of America.
[/quote]

In all of my studies of haitian history I have never come across anything that would point to that idea that our forefathers had a pact with the devil. There is no historical basis for such an assertion, and there is no biblical basis to support the idea that Haiti's poverty is a result of satan's worship. In other words, this leader is just saying his own stuff...stuff that's neither in Haiti's history nor in the bible - just 'voye monte'.

gelin

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Post by Jonas » Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:19 pm

Pact with Satan?

What Satan?

Gelin, you could try to decipher the Bible, from here to eternity, you wouldn't be able to demonstrate a possible pact of Haiti or any other country with Satan.

THERE IS NO SATAN.

Even the Church of England is starting to erase reference to Satan in its liturgy.

And people like LUC MESADIEU should have been a laughingstock, but these people in their ignorance could be very dangerous.

Gelin_

Post by Gelin_ » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:59 am

[quote]Pact with Satan? What Satan? Gelin, you could try to decipher the Bible, from here to eternity, you wouldn't be able to demonstrate a possible pact of Haiti or any other country with Satan.[/quote]

I found no evidence in Haiti's history that there was ever a pact with satan, and I don't find it in the bible either.

[quote]THERE IS NO SATAN.[/quote]

Now Jonas, please tell me how you know that. I'd like to read your arguments and ideas...

[quote]Even the Church of England is starting to erase reference to Satan in its liturgy...[/quote]

That doesn't prove anything...

gelin

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Post by Jonas » Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:17 pm

Gelin,

Why don't you, for a change, prove there is a Satan?

I can demonstrate the non-existence of a Satan, but I doubt that you would be convinced.

You believe there is a Satan, I firmly believe there is no such thing.

Let's leave it at that!

Gelin_

Post by Gelin_ » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:43 am

[quote]I can demonstrate the non-existence of a Satan, but I doubt that you would be convinced.[/quote]

I promise: I won't answer you back! But please demonstrate it so that I can at least consider your arguments. I won't answer back.

gelin

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Post by Anacaona_ » Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:43 pm

Mwen dakò 100% avek sa pastè Luc Mésadieu di ya. Sèlman mwen ta swete ke nou ap pale de menm satan. Pou mwen menm, satan ki fè yo rele peyi nou an “the poorest nation in the western Hemisphere” se blan fransè, blan meriken, blan panyòl avèk tout ban akolit yo. Msye sa yo mete tèt yo ansanm avek you bann politisyen machann peyi pou yo kraze Ayiti. Kontra diabolik sa genlè se avèk mesye sa yo lidè nou yo te siyenl.
Antouka, m swete msye al gade nan pòch vòlò sa yo epi la wè ki kote richès peyi nou an ye. Epi, fòk msye gade poul wè si li pa you satan tou kap kraze Ayiti.

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[quote]Mwen dakò 100% avek sa pastè Luc Mésadieu di ya. Sèlman mwen ta swete ke nou ap pale de menm satan. Pou mwen menm, satan ki fè yo rele peyi nou an “the poorest nation in the western Hemisphere” se blan fransè, blan meriken, blan panyòl avèk tout bann akolit yo. Msye sa yo mete tèt yo ansanm avek you bann politisyen machann peyi pou yo kraze Ayiti. Kontra diabolik sa genlè se avèk mesye sa yo lidè nou yo te siyenl.
Antouka, m swete msye al gade nan pòch vòlò sa yo epi la wè ki kote richès peyi nou an ye. Epi, fòk msye gade poul wè si li pa you satan tou kap kraze Ayiti.[/quote]
Anacaona, se pa de ri ou pa fè m ri.

Lò mwen li premye fraz ou ekri a, kòm mwen poko abitye avèk stil ou, mwen panse se yon fanatik Luc Mésadieu ou te ye. Epi nan yon demi-segond machwa te kòmanse gonfle. Mwen te panse ou te vin defann rezime sa Pastè Mésadieu
te ban nou sou Istwa Ayiti an 2 fraz:
[quote]Since the independence of this country January the 1st, 1804, all the leaders got commitment with satan to lead this country. It is the reason why Haiti is the poorest country of America. [/quote]

Mwen te gentan panse: "Kèt! Nou pral blije diskite ak kèk kretyen retwogad sou fowòm lan" (yon bagay ki pa fasil men ke nou pa kapab evite tout tan). Epi plis mwen kontinye li mesaj la, se plis mwen reyalize jan w entelijan. Antouka, se te kòm yon pwasondavril a retademan.

Mèsi pou pawòl yo, epi mwen dakò ak dènye konsèy ou ba msye a tou!

Shellony

Post by Shellony » Mon May 02, 2005 9:15 pm

[quote]About the Christian Movement for a New Haiti (MOCHRENHA), it is the only organized Christian political party in Haiti.[/quote]

Not anymore. There are several now (Chavanes Jeune's party, Manigat's party etc...)

[quote]So our goal in MOCHRENHA is to have a new commitment with God for Haiti in order to obtain the blessings of God to the Haitian people. MOCHRENHA got no relationship with the former President Jean Bertrand Aristide because he was a dictator and a servant of satan.[/quote]

Anacaona wrote:
[quote]Mwen dakò 100% avek sa pastè Luc Mésadieu di ya. Sèlman mwen ta swete ke nou ap pale de menm satan. Pou mwen menm, satan ki fè yo rele peyi nou an “the poorest nation in the western Hemisphere” se blan fransè, blan meriken, blan panyòl avèk tout ban akolit yo. Msye sa yo mete tèt yo ansanm avek you bann politisyen machann peyi pou yo kraze Ayiti. Kontra di
abolik sa genlè se avèk mesye sa yo lidè nou yo te siyenl.
Antouka, m swete msye al gade nan pòch vòlò sa yo epi la wè ki kote richès peyi nou an ye. Epi, fòk msye gade poul wè si li pa you satan tou kap kraze Ayiti. [/quote]

Anacaona, it's obvious that you and and Dr Mesadieu are not talking about the same "satan". Maybe what you consider Satan is Mesadieu's "God", patron saint (oh no, he's a pastor), or brothers.

Anyway, have you realized something about Mesadieu?
Il a deja donne ses adieux

Shelony

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